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Marriage, Parenting, Faith and Puppies with Candace Cameron Bure

We are continuing our celebration of season 5 with this incredible re-release of a conversation with someone you likely grew up knowing. We love her Aurora Teagarden movies on The Hallmark Channel, her kids books and her depth of insight into marriage and family. We hope you’ll love this conversation with the Full House and Fuller House star Candance Cameron Bure!

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Julie Lyles Carr: I’m Julie Lyles Carr. You’re listening to the AllMomDoes podcast, and we are celebrating being in our fifth season. Still blows me away to say that. And today we wanted to highlight an episode that we had with someone who you may have grown up, with seeing her grow up on television. She may be a big part of your Christmas experience that who came her Hallmark Christmas movies.

Julie Lyles Carr: And I have a little bit of a backstory, but I thought you might be interested. I was so excited to connect again with Candice Cameron Bure. She and I had met and had spoken on the same stage a few years ago and hit it off. And I was excited to get to talk to her again. And I have to admit, I was a little nervous and the day that we were supposed to record, right outside my studio, I don’t know why this seems to happen sometime, but construction started happening right on the other side of the wall of my studio. So, we get onto the platform that we use online to record these interviews, and I immediately had to say to her, I’m so sorry, I’ve got to try to move to a different spot. And so I am running, jogging, carrying all of my equipment, which includes my laptop and my microphone and my big headphones and all of my stands and all of the waffle material that we use to create the best sound environment. And she hung with me the whole time. While I juggled and carried and ran and finally closeted myself to be able to have that interview at the scheduled time. So hats off to Candace for her patience. And I’m excited for you to hear this episode with Candice Cameron Bure.

Julie Lyles Carr: Candice Cameron Bure. Thank you so much for being with me today.

Candace Cameron Bure: Oh, you’re so welcome. Thanks for having me.

Julie Lyles Carr: Now, I’m excited because you’re in Vancouver, which is one of my favorite cities. You’re up there because you’re preparing to do some more work and put some more stuff in that we all know and love. What’s the latest project?

Candace Cameron Bure: Yes, I’m filming two new Aurora Teagarden mysteries for the Hallmark movies and mysteries channel. And this is actually going to be our 16th and 17th movies in this mystery series, which is exciting. Aurora Teagarden, if you watch these, finally getting married. So, we get to have a wedding, which is always fun. I love putting a wedding dress off. Absolutely.

Julie Lyles Carr: I would love another chance to try to get one of those, well, maybe get my right leg and to one of them all these years. You’ve been to Vancouver quite a bit as the process of this filming and this many episodes, as many movies and all the other work that you’re doing, how is that going into Vancouver to film versus where has been more home-based for you outside of Los Angeles?

Candace Cameron Bure: Well, I’ve been, I have been working in Vancouver since I was 17 years old. I filmed the majority of all the Hallmark movies up here. So, I spent a lot of time in Canada, and I love it up here. It’s really wonderful. Every province has been great. You know, in that, that is a challenging part of my career because I do have to travel for these movies and be away from my family. It’s even been a struggle at times, over the years from my family, from the amount of time I’m gone. So, I’m always trying to reprioritize and adjust that timeline. And with the pandemic and now adding quarantine two weeks to my schedule, it’s become even greater. So, it just means that I’ll be doing a few less films this year until this quarantine time has gone. And that’s okay. I mean, those are like the harder decisions that you have to make. Everyone makes them. But I can’t do as many simply because of the time, but my family is important.

Julie Lyles Carr: What was it like when you began to realize last year, oh, I’m going to be a home a whole lot more? Because, you know, I grew up, my dad was with the space shuttle industry and we lived near a lot of military, and you would see families who grew accustomed to that place of having to be apart from each other. And they actually got pretty good at it. You know, they got a rhythm to it. And then would be that time where maybe something would happen and the party of the family who was often gone, they got kind of used to, that was home more. And there was some real dynamics that had to shift and change. According to that. What was that like for your family? Was it just, oh, great, mom’s home more this year or was it, huh? We, we have some dynamics we have to figure out here.

Candace Cameron Bure: Well, we, we went through this before because I had stopped working for a good 10 years to stay at home and raise my kids, while my husband was still a professional hockey player in the NHL. When he retired, we had to go through that adjustment period because he was now home full time, and I was already home full time. And that was challenging because our relationship had always been based on one of us being away half of the year, not in one bulk chunk at a time, but half a year throughout the year.

So, we’d done it once before, and then we got to do it again last year, except it was now my turn, because I’m the one that’s been traveling a whole lot more than my husband. And as hard as last year was, because it actually was very difficult for us in the marriage department, I’ll be completely open and honest because everyone needs to hear that they’re not alone.

It was definitely a challenge. But what ended up happening was we dealt with the stuff that we just kept sweeping under the rug, because I was out of town. He was out of town. It just made me us sit face-to-face and say, okay, let’s work this out. And let’s figure out a plan and readjust priorities again, uh, without bitterness. And, but we were able to do that. We have the time, and we grew so much stronger because of it. So, now it’s falls in my court actually, so that I make sure I stick with my commitments, as to not overwork, because I’m a bit of a workaholic. I love what I do. But I realized how much time I have been away from my family, and it takes its toll on my family.

So, I have to keep my promise in 2021 to stick to our timeframes that we set out, and staying in two weeks of the quarantine, doesn’t help my timeline. So, it’s actually a sacrifice that I can’t do as many films because I have to be up here longer because of that.

Julie Lyles Carr: Right, right. The timeframe has all changed to be able to be safe and be on set and all those things.

I think you’re right. I mean, my husband and I have been married for 31 years and I so longed, we have these two schedules that I was on the road speaking quite a bit, that all came to a halt. He’s one of those guys who’s just working all the time and when he’s not working, he’s networking. And so, he’s gone a lot and suddenly finding ourselves in the same house, having to deal with each other and our work patterns, and some of the things that we hadn’t really had to navigate together before. Was really interesting. And we’ve been married a long time. So, I say that as an encouragement to anybody, I love your vulnerability on that because I think that there were people who hit last year, who went, shouldn’t this be happier? I mean, we’re finally getting more time together. And instead, we are having to muck out the stall, so to speak at it, not been really, really pleasant.

Candace Cameron Bure: Absolutely you’re not alone. You know, you’re not alone. It was definitely rough at the start of the year, but I also believe that’s what, that’s, what marriage is all about. It’s and I, and we’ll, we’ll be celebrating 25 years of marriage this year. And you know, it’s a lot of ups and downs. There’s roller coaster. Good seasons and there’s tougher seasons, but it’s all about being willing to work through those seasons, because I truly believe that for the most part, obviously there’s always exceptions, but for the most part, if we can put our pride aside, Humble ourselves, we, we can usually work through the problem.

Julie Lyles Carr: Right, right. Yeah. I think that does, there’s just work that goes into it. And I know we say it and I know that those of us who are a little further down the road, say it to the ones that we see coming up. And you’ve got kids who are getting married. I’ve got kids who are getting married and we’re telling them that all the time, but it is a whole other different thing to really be in it and doing the work then to just academically know that marriage is going to take work.

Candace Cameron Bure: Sure, exactly.

Julie Lyles Carr: Stay in the course. Now you mentioned that you were home for 10 years and there are a lot of listeners to the podcast who are in that season of juggling little bitty kids, striving to stay in the career market, or maybe they are trying to come out, or if they’re working, they feel like it’d be better if they were home. If they’re home, they’re kind of wishing they might be working. All of that lane that can be really challenging. And, and as much as we love the opportunities and the open doors for women, and I hope that as team mom, we’re all supporting and cheering each other on, I think there still can be a lot of comparison. A lot of judging that happens. How did you make the decision, at what some could have argued was quite a peak in your career because you know, you were coming off of a very successful sit-com. You could have launched right into a whole lot of other stuff. And you made the decision to hit the pause button for a little bit.

Were you fearful, first of all, that you might not ever get a chance to go back in, in the same place? And how did you deal with that fear? And then in the context of those 10 years, did you feel that pull? Did you feel like, am I in the right place? Am I doing the right thing?

Candace Cameron Bure: So, making the decision to stay at home and raise my kids was a pretty easy decision. I actually, at one point, right when I had Natasha, decided to go, I, I thought I was going to continue working and raise my kids at the same time. And within less than a month, I knew that was not for me. I knew I could not be the kind of mom that I wanted to be if I was traveling and working and auditioning., it just wasn’t going to happen.

So, it became a very easy decision for me to say, I’m going to stay at home and raise the kids, because I didn’t want someone else doing that for us. But did I have a fear that I would never go back to work? Of course, I did. And my career, had literally been my whole life. I’ve been working since I was five years old. And then coming off a really successful full television show, every agent and manager that I talked to said this not the smartest thing for your career. Obviously, we support whatever you’d like to do, but there, you could miss out, and they could just overlook you and forget about you. But that’s really when my relationship with God and Jesus grew in my life. My faith became so strong, and that was over many years, but I really came to the point probably two or three years into surrendering to motherhood, as much as I wanted to, I had a very great peace that if God was going to open the door again, and it was meant for me to work, he would.

And if it didn’t, I was okay because the more I dug into the word, the more I read my Bible, I knew that I was exactly where God wanted me to be at this season in my life. And so, sure there were days I cried about it, but in my heart, I knew, Nope, this is it. And I’m good. I’m really good. But the desire to work never left. I have been a creative motivated Energizer bunny of a person my entire life. So, I never wanted to stop working. And even talking to my husband when I decided like, hey, this is, I think the best decision, we decided was the best decision for our family, I told him, as soon as you retire from hockey, I want to go back to work.

So that desire never left me for all the years that I stayed home. I just knew it wasn’t the right time for me to be at work. But a couple years after my husband did retire from hockey, that’s when I you know, reached out into the entertainment world and said, hey, hey, knock, knock, will you guys have me back? And the door kind of flung right open.

Julie Lyles Carr: Yeah. Yeah. I think sometimes if we have a desire for something and it’s not happening right, then, then we either think the desire is wrong or we begin pining for it in a way that doesn’t actually honor the season that is present. And I love that distinction that you can have that desire and it can stay with you for a long time, and it’s all still okay. Like. Wrong, either side. I think that’s where I’ve gotten at times really schooled up. It’s where I hear some of the women younger coming up after me who get really conflicted, because we all have that worry of FOMO in some ways. What might we be missing out on? What further steps might we be on down the road if we were making this choice or that choice or the other, and to have that it’s a discipline, right? To have a deep desire, but to stay in the lane you’re in. Did you find that for you?

Candace Cameron Bure: It’s such a discipline and I really feel that God blessed me with patience. Not from the start, bless me meaning, I really learned to be a patient person over those 10 years and beyond. I have been a woman in my career that has said a lot more no’s than I have yeses in my life.

And I’ve always trusted God in his timing. I didn’t have that patience when I was born, but I’ve learned to have it. And I feel like God has given me blessings and honored that in me. And it’s so important, everything that you said, it’s just, we want everything now. And we feel like it’s wrong if it’s not happening now, but we can read story after story that some things take 30 years to come to fruition, but never stop praying about it. Never stopped dreaming about it. All of those are good and healthy things, but you just have to, might have to be more patient than you thought you’d have to be.

Julie Lyles Carr: Right. Right. And as you said, during those 10 years, your faith really grew. When you came back into the entertainment space, was that a bit of a surprise to some of the people that maybe you had association with before? Because before you’d been younger, you’d been a child. Now you’re a wife, you’re a mom. You’re someone who’s further in her walk with God. And, and you’re coming in perhaps with a stronger sense of, okay, this is who I am. These are the projects I’m interested in. These are the projects I’m not going to do. How was that when you first kind of came back in and you’re living in that duality of, hey, I’d love to be able to come back to the party, but I have maybe some stringent rules for myself, or a different way of looking at this than I did when I was younger.

How was that entry back in?

Candace Cameron Bure: It was interesting because first, I have a side for my husband and my two boys, I have two incredibly important men in my life. And they are my business partners, and have acted as my manager over the years, but that relationship has, has developed into the, they are my partners for more than 20 years and they knew exactly who I was and who I am. And they were at the time, very willing to work on my terms, and believed in my term. And that was such an important piece of the puzzle. The other part that I feel grateful for is that I wanted to go back to work, and I greatly desired it, but I didn’t have to. So, I didn’t have a pressure, which is a really big difference. A lot of people are not in that situation. They have to go back to work. So, I recognize that that was a very nice place to be. So, I could go back on my terms and say, hey, if you don’t want me with all of these boundaries I’m coming in with then, okay, then it’s just not for me. And I was willing to walk away because I didn’t have to do it.

But in that I think people were so nostalgic because of full house and had wonderful memories, so I feel like for the most part, when I walked in those rooms and those doors saying, hey, I’m back here to audition, they were very, very welcoming. And things just started to go well. And as I became stronger vocally and knew that I was always going to share my faith with people, no matter what I was doing, that it was a part of me, it surprised me that I was very embraced for my faith and living it out publicly.

Julie Lyles Carr: Right. How do you manage? Because people have such wide opinions and, and different sides of the lane when it comes to the boundaries, you’ve put in place for you, the things that you believe, honors God in your life. I’m sure you have everything from people who think you don’t do enough to you go too far, to all those things. How do you say stay grounded in what you know he’s asked you to do? Because I feel like we still play this game with ourselves, where we’re looking at someone else’s faith, walk and career and the boundaries they put in place, and we feel either compelled or we feel like, Ooh, they’re being kind of, you know, how do we just start sloughing that off and figure out how to walk with God for ourselves in the path he has for us? However, not being the kind of person who won’t take wisdom or correction, or someone’s a well-meaning observation, how do you do that? Because you walking out your face, it’s a lot more public than it is for a lot of people, which means you probably get a whole lot of cacophony who thinks you’re doing great, who thinks do too much. Who’s not doing enough.

Candace Cameron Bure: It’s literally from one comment to the next. My ego gets filled up greatly. I think I’m amazing. And then the next one, it shatters, because I am not as good of a Christian as my brother. That’s like the main comment I get, your brother’s a real Christian. You’re not. Okay.

Julie Lyles Carr: I mean, how do you, how do you stay grounded in what’s for you?

Candace Cameron Bure: Well, I decided. A long time ago and from a biblical principle that I would surround myself with trusted people that I knew had my best interest at heart and would guide me from a biblical perspective.

One of those people is my husband. Two of those other two people are my parents. And I obviously have other friends in that small group, but it is a small group. So, when I started receiving praise and criticism, I knew that I could always go back to the people that have been a constant influence in my life, who I know are grounded in the word, and will speak the truth into my life when I need it in love.

And it’s very easy to pick apart someone else’s walk. And I realized the second I myself started doing it, I thought if I’m looking to pick at someone else, I need to just turn this around and take a look at myself, because there’s something clearly going on in me with my walk that, I don’t know, maybe I’m taking it out on someone else. And that might not always be the case, but it made me want to reflect on myself instead. Like take out the log in my own eye. And that’s what I think about the different comments from people. And you know what I’ve had those talks, but my mom, like her bottom line is always, when I say mom, do you think this is okay to do? Or do you think this would paint me in a negative light? And she’d say, honey, would you feel comfortable doing that or showing that, in front of Jesus, if you were standing right in front of you? And that was always my mom’s bottom-line answer, but I was like the best perspective ever. So, in talking through with my husband, as far as boundaries, as to what I do on television, we’ve made those.

And I recognize that not everyone feels comfortable with the same boundaries that Val and I have made, but the two of us as a married couple, feel comfortable with the guidelines we’ve made within our marriage. And feel that, because with that, we are honoring to God. But I totally recognize there are people that could pick that apart and have a different point of view, and I honor your difference of opinion. Absolutely do. But we’re, I’m trying to walk the best walk that I can and hope that you’re doing that for you. But conviction is such an important thing, right? Because you should always follow your, your own conviction and God will give each of us heavier convictions than another.

I cannot expect everyone to follow my convictions and rules if God put them out on my heart, if they are okay, biblically. You know, as long as it’s not just downright sinful, you should never expect someone else to follow what can, what God has convicted you about. And it’s okay if those convictions are different for your friend.

Julie Lyles Carr: Right, right. You know, I, I feel this so keenly because there are things that God has asked me to lay down that would make sense to no one. I mean, just it, like why? Like, why would that even be a thing? And, and I’ve had times with certain relationships that I haven’t minded sharing a couple of those things, but I’ve been very cautious with it because so quickly we can take a conviction that’s been laid on someone else, and we can turn it into some kind of rule for everybody. Or somebody hears if something like that and goes, well, maybe that would be good for me. Maybe I should try that. And again, I think there’s such value in sharing our walk. Sharing the things that God is showing us. Sharing the things that are keeping us strong or he’s having us avoid or embrace as part of our walk with him.

But it’s, you know, Paul, particularly in his writings is so clear about the things. If you’ve got a conviction on this, then it’s sin for you. And if you have a freedom in this, then you have a freedom in this. And feels like we have a hard time extending that to each other, because I do think we take comfort in systems, and what we think is a whole lot of clarity. But you said something that I think is such a gem, when you talked about that, if you’re starting to feel a little bit judgey, or whatever towards somebody else, that you turn it and understand that it’s actually symptomatic, potentially, of something going on in your own heart. That is, that is just treasure because you’re right, there are many times where I’ll be looking at someone going. Hmm. And all it takes is that split second for God to show me, oh, really? What’d you call here and let’s have a chat and then I just, oh, oh, okay. Yeah. I got some other stuff I need to deal with before I, before I go, trying to fix anybody else.

Yes. How did you, you know, there’s so much out there Candace, about pick the one thing and really run for it. And I think there’s value in that. And I think it helps clarify, clarify where our nos are going to be and all that kind of stuff. And yet, then I look at all the stuff that you’ve been involved in. Years ago, you and I did an event together. So, you did some public speaking and you’re probably still going to be doing some of that after the pandemics over. Your movie and television career completely revved back up. You’re on QVC all the time. You’re writing books. You’re on social media. How you keep up with your social media alone is amazing to me.

How did you decide that all of those things were your one thing, when they seem so multifaceted? Because sometimes I think we do get really scattered. Sometimes maybe we’re limiting ourselves by thinking of something as a specific role, and only engaging in that role. How did you evaluate all that?

Candace Cameron Bure: I love this question. First of all, because I had such an epiphany moment and it was after reading the book that a million little things, or little million ways by Emily P. Freeman. Yeah, something close to that. But I had been on the women’s speaking circuit for seven, eight years, you know, a handful of times a year, I’d go out and speak at a conference where, where we met. And I loved it because I got to share my faith and share my testimony. And that has always been my heart. But after seven or eight years, I was not enjoying it, but it wasn’t that I wasn’t enjoying it from a happiness point of view, it was not what I wanted to do for my life. And I didn’t know how to lay that down and not be used by God to still share my testimony. And I, after reading that book, it really helps give me perspective. And I thought this is not like my first love, and what I really want to do. I realized that I still could share Jesus, even if I went back into the entertainment industry, which was what I really wanted to do. But it was really hard to give up the security of being on that speaking circuit. Of knowing, hey, I’m going to get a paycheck. I get to meet people. I mean, there were all these emotional attachments along with money that goes along with that too. And so, it was hard to give it up and say, I’m not gonna do this anymore, or book any more events so that I can actually pursue what my first love is, which I believe God gave me the talent for, which is acting and just see how it goes.

14 years later, I really am shocked that not only am I acting and following my true passion, and what I believe is the talents God gave me, but actually getting to share with Jesus on what I think is an even bigger platform than the stage arena platform. But I never even imagined that. I just knew I’ve always been an entrepreneur. I have always loved having my hand in a lot of different baskets. And I have a whole journal full of dreams and lists and things that I want to do that go back 15, 20 years. All the things I’m doing right now have been on those lists. These are not things that I’m like, oh, hey, I’m going to have a make-up deal because I’m suddenly popular. And I can, I can. So I’m going to, or I’m going to do devotionals because a publisher came to me and said, here, write some devotionals. No, these are all the things that I’m doing are all the things I’ve been working towards and praying over for 10, 20 years. And somehow with the team God gave me, I’m able to manage it all. But I really feel like this is what God made me to do, and I’m able to do it, but that doesn’t take away from anyone who does any less or has a different platform, because we all have a platform it’s just different for each of us. Your platform may be those three little kids in your home. They are your platform. Or your husband or your neighbor, whoever.

Julie Lyles Carr: You know, sometimes we can get hyper-focused on a one thing and potentially miss other opportunities, sometimes. We are trying to do so many things and spend so many plays and that wisdom you have about that you captured, you were so wise to journal it out and capture ahead of time. These ideas of things that you wanted to do. I was having an interview with someone a little while back, and they had talked about the difference between planning and preparation. You know, they found that in it and the book experiencing God. And to me, it sounds like that, sure, you had some idea of some things you wanted to do, but really you really were prepping in those ages and stages.

And when things do come into a fullness of time, it’s pretty amazing how quickly things can come together. It’s again, though, slow build. Yes. People can feel like, am I doing this right? Am I handling correctly? What’s going on? So, so talk to me. One of the things that you’ve been doing in recent times, I think is, is really fun. And I’d love to hear what the process to getting to this place was. Because a lot of things you’ve done to this point have been speaking into women’s lives. It has been development of products and things along those lines for women. But then you’ve also been doing some children’s books, but this theme of being faithful with something that you think you really wanted, but then it’s a little more challenging. It may take more time. It may do all those things. I mean, to me, this is really the theme of our conversation today, is how do you remain faithful in doing what’s right in front of you and correctly, so that eventually what you have been thinking of comes to fruition? So talk to us about how you got into the children’s book lane, and then how you are working to inculcate these really powerful messages for kids in a way that they can grab hold.

Candace Cameron Bure: It was always my desire to write children’s books, as soon as my daughter Natasha was born, because reading to my children was my favorite thing to do. And I think because I wasn’t acting at the time either I would open up these books and we’d look at these great illustrations and I would act out these characters and it would be like a little play in our living room, but I loved reading to them and with them.

So, I started talking to publishers. I actually had talked about writing children’s books first, but it’s a, it’s a niche part of the market. And no one thought I would be successful coming out of the gate with a children’s book. So, I did get a publishing deal and wrote my first book, Reshaping It All. And so, I wrote several trade books, because it was just, I guess, more, more profitable, or more eyeballs would be on those types of books. But finally, after talking to my publisher several times, and as my career has grown, I’m like, this is what I really want to do. This has been 20 years in the making. Can we please publish a children’s book? And I finally got a yes. And now I’m on the third one.

Julie Lyles Carr: I too, adore children’s books and in my tenure of raising eight kids, we have read a lot of children’s books. One of the things that you’re able to do that I think is really beautiful and unique, is you’re able to find a theme that could be, um, a little high level for a kid.

And yet you put it in such a way that a child, a child is going to be able to grab hold of that. And in this newest one about the new puppy, it’s, it’s this beautiful way of talking about, there’s something you can really want, but there’s a faithfulness that comes in really walking out whatever that dream thing is.

So for the protagonist in the book, it said she wants this puppy and she wants this puppy so bad, but then when she gets this puppy, it’s a whole, it’s a whole different ballgame. Like it it’s puppy world. So how do you make those determinations on that, that thread, that theme that you want kids to get and break it down so they can really, they can really digest.

Candace Cameron Bure: It’s really great because I have the first nine books already thought out because the first nine books planned out.

Julie Lyles Carr: You got a plan.

Candace Cameron Bure: I have a plan. It’s the fruit of the spirit. And that’s what I wanted to read and talk about with all three of my kids when they were younger. So, I knew when I was going to write books, I wanted to write on the fruit of the spirit.

So faithfulness is one of those fruits, and I also wanted to write these books in a way that obviously, I’m a Christian and I share my faith a lot, but I wanted to write it in a way where people and families of all faiths, or no faith at all, could read and enjoy the book, but knowing it comes from my heart, even if I don’t have scripture in it, it’s always going to be an undertone or the theme of something that God gives us.

And if a Christian picks that book up for a family of a different faith, maybe they’ll end up using that book as a tool to then share their faith. I don’t know. That’s always, it’s always my goal. It’s just a plant little seeds. And as far as choosing faithfulness, I was trying to think of a story that could really show what faithfulness meant without actually a faith point of view.

So, I thought with a little kid, well, I’m a huge dog lover. I I’ve never been without a dog in our home since I was 17 years old. We’ve had many over the years, and I thought, oh, this is, it’s not just about responsibility. It’s really about faithfulness, because when the going gets rough, when the going gets frustrating, when the, when you get tired of doing it, it’s really your faithfulness that kicks in. And I truly believe that God will always honor faithfulness. Whether it’s on this side of heaven or not, but God will always honor our faithfulness. So, I thought it was a simple enough story that kids could understand a bigger concept of faithfulness.

Julie Lyles Carr: I love that. Well, we’ll make sure that this in the show notes where re where listeners can go and find that, find that for their kids, birthday gifts and all the things. Candace, you’re just so gracious. It’s so great to get to catch up with you. You’re just a joy as always keep it up. I can’t wait to see what’s next.

Candace Cameron Bure: Thank you. I so appreciate it.

Julie Lyles Carr: Check out the show notes for all the links, info, and other goodness from this week’s episode, with a big thank you to our content coordinator, Rebecca. I’ve got a request, please go like, and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts. It really does make a difference in helping other people find the show. And I’ll see you next week here at the AllMomDoes podcast.

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